WFL Response to Enagic Report2010-05-17 08:18:59
Water for Life USA's Response to:
Factual and Honest look at the top five Ionizers
Enagic, Life, KYK & Jupiter
the never - before told Facts & Secrets that they don't want you
to know. This alone can save you thousands!”
WFL: Neither factual nor honest. Unfortunately, between Tyent, Life and Enagic, the water ionizer marketplace has turned into used car lot attracting some of the sleaziest and most dishonest salesmen. This fake “factual” report is a perfect example of a dirty salesman playing dirty games in order to manipulate consumers into spending money on a now inferior product.
First off, Enagic is a MLM company and the man who wrote this report ranks at the top of the Enagic MLM pyramid. In Enagic's MLM system there are eight tiers, or eight different salesmen, all splitting the $2700 profit made from the sale of each SD 501, which retails for $3980. The higher you rank in the tiers, the more of the percentage of payout you get. That means that the author of this report makes A LOT of money selling Enagic. He gets $1700 for each unit he sells PLUS a percentage of every unit his downline sells. Thus, he is VERY motivated to continue pushing his product, no matter what other products may emerge. So, he is already lying to the consumer with the title of this report. He would never admit to a product being better than his. It is impossible for a man with such a strong bias to write “a factual and honest look at the top five water ionizers.” For that reason alone, you can't believe anything he says.
The intention of our response to this report is to expose how Enagic, Tyent, and Life are manipulating consumers – in an attempt to clean up some of the lies and distortions flooding the water ionizer marketplace including lies about our company's product – KYK.
For the last couple years we have remained mostly silent about these issues, instead choosing to focus on our own water ionizing products and the many benefits of ionized water. But now our name is being drug through the mud so men like this can keep the cash flowing into their pockets at YOUR expense.
It's time to fight back.
Enagic: “Do you ever get
the feeling that Water Ionizer Companies and Dealers are just telling
you what you want to hear?
How many times have you heard " We have the best water ionizers" or " We have the highest ORP?"
Wouldn't it be great to get through the mud and to find out which ionizer is right for you based on hard facts?
Well, I wanted to know especially after getting stuck purchasing an inferior water ionizer and wasting $1,000 + dollars.
WFL: Which one? We're not aware of inferior water ionizers for $1000+ in the US marketplace. All water ionizers for $1000+ have at least five platinum titanium plates, 1 micron to .01 micron filtration, and several levels of pH and ORP to chose from. All products that we're aware of have KFDA or Japanese Health Ministry Approval, come from ISO certified factories, and have been through several other rigorous certification processes. ALL $1000+ water ionizers in the US marketplace can produce 9.5pH and -300 ORP on most water conditions, which is the optimal level of drinking water. He is already lying.
Enagic: So, I decided to help make it crystal clear to you. What I'm offering to you is a free report that will absolutely be a breath of fresh air that will guide you in determining which water ionizer is right for you and your family.
immediately painting the picture that some ionizers are “wrong”
for your family. All the water ionizers we know of would be good for
most families. They all pretty much do the same thing. But as
you're reading this you may start to feel concerned that maybe some
products are much better than others... and some may actually be
harmful to you or your loved ones.
Enagic: Hopefully, by presenting solid evidence based on scientific facts, your perception will be based on just that and not on a bunch of hot air or hype that is so prevalent today. Cold, hard facts and the truth behind those facts are what we all should be after. After all, the market is flooded with ionizers all making the claim that they are the best. Not every ionizer can be the best! It is literally impossible! We will help you break through the hot air and hype!
WFL: His second manipulation is to make himself appear to be on your side. He wants you to think he is trying to help you cut through lies and make a good decision. He does not reveal his bias that he just wants to sell you Enagic.
Enagic: Without a doubt, the most important feature of any water ionizer is the Titanium/ Platinum plates that produce the healthy alkaline water with micro-clustering and negative O.R.P. values. Without these your ionizer would be worthless!
When deciding between ionizers, this should most definitely be your most important factor in choosing the one that is best for you. So let’s get started!
WFL:The plates are certainly important. But his third manipulation is to get you to focus on the differences in the plates the machines use because he thinks the Enagic plates are better because they are bigger – that will be his main argument throughout. The truth is ALL plates – whether they have ridges, or slots, or are big or small – ionize the water and make it better for you to drink. And ANY five plate or higher water ionizer will create the optimal drinking water – the 9.5 pH and -300 ORP. It's not recommended that you drink water stronger than that because it's not natural. So, getting you to focus on plate differences as being the most important factor is FLAT OUT WRONG.
ENAGIC: There are 5 factors that you should consider when looking at Titanium/ Platinum plates.
1. The size of the plates in surface area.
2. The consistency and amount of platinum on the plates.
3. Solid vs. Mesh
4. The power supply energizing the plates.
5. The quality of the plates
The first question to ask a distributor or dealer has to do with these 5 factors. You will find that most won't know how to answer these 5 important factors. The good news is that I have included it in my special free report.
are many dealers, including many Enagic reps, who do not know this
information. The author of this report wants you to really worry
about this. Truth is, you really don't have to. All major water
ionizer distribution companies here in the US are representing
products that have been through rigorous certification processes for
safety and performance. For example, the Korean FDA isn't going to
give a stamp of approval on a health product lightly. If they
approve it, that means that it produces healthy, alkaline ionized
water. If you buy a product they have approved, you will be drinking
healthy, alkaline ionized water. Simple.
Just as important is the warranty and especially the fine print such as the exclusions or exceptions. This is important because the warranty should protect the consumer and not the company. I will expose those companies that are in fact protecting themselves when I reveal what is in the fine print that can cost you big. Beware of the red flags...
actually agree about this. We offer a 5 year bumper to bumper
including shipping warranty for our products. No strings attached.
Many of the warranties out there have some very troubling fine print
– like Life Ionizers who won't cover your shipping costs after a
couple of months.
1. Which company voids their warranty if to much volume is produced?
2. Which 2 companies void their warranty in Hard Water States?
These are huge red flags especially considering that half the continental United States has hard water. I will expose these companies! Don't make the mistake like I did of purchasing a useless ionizer that cost me $1,000 + dollars.
Warranty is important to consider.
Beware of the slick marketing terms such as “auto shut off” or “shut down protector”. All of these are an attempt by the manufacturer to cover an obvious flaw in the ionizer design. Good water ionizers should not overheat especially with the new transformer technology known as SMPS (Switched Mode Power Supply), which is a cooler running transformer. This is an important feature in most Ionizers and I will explain why.
WFL: This is interesting, apparently having added features is somehow a negative because it covers flaws?? Even with our SMPS electrical system our KYK Genesis includes an “auto shut off.” This is not because our electrical system does not work. In fact, unlike Enagic, you can run the KYK Genesis for literally hours at a time without it overheating. But if it did overheat, the auto shut off is there to protect the machine. Also, putting in a mechanism like this a requirement for some electrical safety certifications.
Enagic: By reading my free report you will have the correct knowledge to arm yourself and avoid these ionizers that don't meet our tough standards.
WFL: His touch standards? That's funny. Again, he's trying to level himself with you. Now, he is your great protector against inferior products. See what we mean by sleazy car salesman?
In this free report, I will
reveal the pros and cons of solid plates vs. mesh plates and why one
over the other is truly the best choice. I
will reveal to you the facts and scientific analysis of how one over
the other will be the difference of producing alkaline water for one
year or less or many years to come.
In this free report, I will reveal the grade of platinum used as well as the consistency or the lack of consistency of platinum over the plates and the benefits and disadvantages of sprayed vs. dipped plates. With Platinum between $1,000 to $2,000/ounce, this is a precious commodity that some ionizer company’s use varies sparingly for obvious reasons - cost cutting.
WFL: NOT TRUE. Unless the plates are coming out of China with poor manufacturing standards, all platinum titanium plates are virtually the same quality – they have to be in order to be certified.
Enagic: Plate Size - Find out what they are not telling you!
Ok, what about the plate size? How important is plate size? Is bigger truly better? Some companies will tell you that there negative O.P.R. or alkalinity is the highest, yet they are using some of the smallest surface area electrolysis plates on the market. These results simply do not match up. How can a water ionizer have some of the highest –ORP or alkalinity available with such a small surface area? Are their stealth reports accurate.? Find out who these companies are by name when I expose them.
are they measuring up? Because the newer machines use electricity
for ionization wiser, like with SMPS electrical systems which produce
cleaner electrical currents. They also increase the surface area of
their plates with ridges or mesh. In our case, we increase
ionization with slotted plates, which carry the electrical current
through the whole plate, not just the edges like your traditional
solid plate. Our slots also allow the water to pass through the
plate instead of going around the plate. Simply put, a much smarter
design than a solid plate. That's why the Genesis Platinum is the
strongest water ionizer on the market.
Enagic: Are you aware that there are those manufacturers that use platinum so sparingly that titanium is exposed and when energized, very small microscopic particles of titanium become “ pathogenic and disease causing” according to a study conducted by the University of British Columbia?
WFL: So now
water ionizers are poisoning you with microscopic particles of
titanium? Not if they have been certified for safety! Again, all
major US distributors represent safe products. Nobody in the US has
ever been harmed by microscopic bits of titanium from a major water
ionizer brand. These are SCARE TACTICS! And you should not fall for
Enagic: How important is the heating element or transformer that energizes the plates? Actually it is very important and is the reason I have added it to this free report. Generally, the higher quality larger plates require more power to produce the higher quality water. Or do they? Again, find out in this free report.
So far, we have only covered the Platinum/Titanium plates. What about under the counter models, flow rates, pH adjustments, self-cleaning and filter life? Which ionizers make true strong acid water that will kill off 99% of bacteria and viruses and those Ionizer companies that claim they do but in fact don’t. What about those water ionizers that produce strong alkaline water for stripping pesticides and insecticides off of fruits and vegetables and those that claim they do but in fact don’t. This free report covers it all and will empower you to make the right decision that is right for you and your family.
WFL: Oh boy... here we go.
Enagic: An Extra Bonus ! Scientific Analysis with Ray Kurzweil.
This bonus is an informative Scientific question and answer that will answer some of the most prevelent questions today in regards to Alkaline Ionized Water from one of the top scientist in the nation, Scientist Ray Kurzweil.
It’s not what they are telling you,
what they’re not telling you!
WFL: Scare tactics...
is a truthful and honest look at the top 5 water ionizer companies
and their top of the line products-
The Tyent mmp 7070
The KYK Genesis
The Jupiter Athena
The Life 7500
The Enagic SD-501
We expose them all and help you to determine which ionizer is best for you!
I would like to start by saying that we have intentionally left out other water ionizers and other water ionizer companies because we are only concerned about the best ionizers out there. The reason behind this is the end result, which is your health. Your health is your #1 priority!
WFL: He's insinuating that water ionizers other than Enagic are unhealthy...
point we should all know how important alkalizing the body is with
good -ORP water and the amazing health benefits that go with
Because it is easy to manipulate data such as -ORP values even by using an approved ORP meter, I have intentionally left out this information.
WFL: This author could have compared the Enagic to the Tyent, Jupiter, and the KYK Genesis and been able to show whose machine has stronger ionization. He didn't do this because the results would have shown all machines producing similar pH and ORP, making the $3980 price tag for the Enagic look absolutely rediculous.
Instead, and more importantly, I will be presenting useful and factual information based on plate size, quality of construction, transformers, the fine print in the warranty and other useful information. This is the type of information that no other ionizer review company dares to ask.
He's focusing on what he thinks can make the strongest argument for
the purchase of Enagic... and he's still wrong.
The Moment of Truth: Virtually all ionizers will produce good alkaline water straight out of the box. The real test comes three to six months down the road.
Again, the ultimate goal in choosing any ionizer is the end result that is your health. Therefore, purchasing an ionizer that is less than par is throwing your money away. If your ionizer stops producing healthy alkaline water, then you have been scammed out of your money, your time and your health!
Is he serious? Does he deal with the same demanding American
consumers that we deal with? Our customers are VIGILANT about
testing pH and even ORP regularly on our machines. If our machine,
or Jupiter's, or Tyent's, or anybody else's seriously had the problem
of not ionizing after six months, there would be a chorus of unhappy
customers blogging, complaining to the BBB, etc. Again, US consumers
are VIGILANT. A water ionizer with that problem would not last... WFL products have been in the hands of happy US customers for six years
now. Jupiter has been in the US market for like 20 years. Tyent for
a couple. Life for a couple. Tyent and Life have the least proven
track records, but they are certainly lasting longer than six months.
Enagic: The purpose of this article is to separate fact from fiction, because...
It's not what they tell you. It's what they're not telling you that matters!
Hard Water - An Ionizers biggest enemy!
Without a doubt, the number 1 enemy of any water ionizer is hard water. This alone can make an ionizer useless in a matter of only 2 or 3 months if not properly cared for.
TRUE!!! Hard water is water with scale in it. That scale can gum up
filters and reduce their life and coat plates with minerals and make
them not as effective – but it does not gum up and ruin electrical
systems and plates can be cleaned with vinegar. The best thing to do
if you have hard water is to get a simple hard water prefilter to
capture the scale before it gets inside the ionizer. Or you can use
an reverse osmosis filter and then remineralize the water.
Hard water literally covers one half
of the continental U.S. alone. Chances are if you live within
the white and red areas then your ionizer will be fighting for its
If you live within the purple areas, then there is good chance your
hold up for a few years or more.
Picture this in your own life. In hard water areas, minerals and scaling build up very easily on shower walls, tiles, etc. and is very difficult to remove. This is the exact same thing going on with your electrolysis plates and why a good scaling remover is vital for any ionizer. Scaling is even more of a problem on electrolysis plates because of the electrical positive and negative plates that attract mineral deposits on these plates.
In speaking to specialist, I found that the calcium is enhanced to a degree in that it becomes very hard. If you have an ionizer or have drunk ionized water, you will have notice that over a period of only a month the plastic container that you use will start to cake on the deposits. In many cases, pouring some white vinegar in the plastic container will clean off those calcium deposits.
In the case of electrolysis plates, however, it is even more of a problem because of the positive and negative forces that attract these particles making it very difficult to clean off especially in hard water States. If not taken care of, many electrolysis plates will and have become useless.
water ionizers have a cleaning cycle which runs acid water over the
plates to prevent scaling of the plates. If the acid isn't strong
enough, the customer can run white vinegar through their ionizer
every couple of months to remove the build up before it becomes a
problem. I have yet to hear of any of our customers in hard water
areas not able to ionize their water because of scale. Our new
Genesis water ionizer cleans itself simultaneously when water is
ionized and also has an auto diagnostic computer which monitors the
plates and will initiate extra cleaning cycles if the plates are
getting dirty. No other water ionizer does that. Again, the best
thing to do with hard water is to pre-treat it with a hard water
prefilter, only costs $50 for the filter and housing. So simple...
Enagic: On the home page, we talked about the most important element of any Water Ionizer being the Platinum/ Titanium plates. This is by far the most important feature because with out it your water ionizer would be worthless.
The second most important feature would be the heating element such as the Transformer or SMPS ( Switched Mode Power Supply) and the third being the warranty.
WFL: Transformers and SMPS are two very different electrical systems. Here is a link explaining the two. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-mode_power_supply SMPS provides a much cleaner electrical current and doesn't produce excess heat as a waste product which damages products over time. Enagic STILL uses a transformer whereas the top models on the market from KYK, Life, and Tyent use SMPS. KYK was the first company to use this technology and since then other manufacturers have followed their lead.
Enagic: As you are reading this
report, my job is to keep you focused on these three components
because they are
the most important and should be at the top of your requirements when
deciding which ionizer to purchase.
Look at the photos below. This is a picture of a water ionizer chamber and what can happen to the electrolysis chamber over a period of time. The electrolysis plates simply eroded away and have to do more with design flaw than actual hard water. These pictures are a sober reminder of why choosing the right machine is so critical for your health.
WFL: Oh please, these plates did not end up like this under normal operating circumstances. These plates look like they have been exposed to extreme heat, probably from failed electrical systems, then rusted in water. This is pure manipulation and more SCARE TACTICS
Electrolysis Plates - Solid vs. Mesh!
WFL: From Jupiter's
of the hottest topics in the ionizer wars is the topic of Solid vs.
Of the 5-ionizer companies, only one uses the solid plate - Enagic (Kangen Water) and one company has it as an upgrade - Life Ionizers. The other 3 ionizers use mesh exclusively- Jupiter, kyk and Tyent.
WFL: Not true. WFL is the only company to use slotted plates. No ridges or mesh.
Enagic: The picture to the right is a typical picture of mesh plating.
Mesh Plates increases the surface area of its plates thus improving its performance but only by slight variations.
WFL: By large variations...
you can see from the picture, mesh plating is simply a process of
stamping thin titanium/ Platinum plates or, to put it another way,
punching holes through thin plates. With mesh plating I have found
that the cons outweigh the pros for a number of reasons.
First off, all water Ionizer companies are Assembly Manufacturers with the exception of Enagic. Enagic (Kangen water) is the only Ionizer Company that does not outsource any of their products.
WFL: Not true. Jupiter (Emcotech) manufactures everything for their products. All other water ionizer companies, like car companies, find reputable manufacturers to make the components for their products. So what? KYK only uses Korean manufacturers. Other companies use manufacturers from Taiwan, China, etc. But as long as the factories are ISO certified, and the products pass rigorous safety and performance certification processes, so what?
Enagic: They are all made
in-house. All Assembly Manufacturers, on the other hand,
outsource their parts from different regions- typically Korea and
Taiwan and then are assembled in Korea, Japan or other places.
Most, if not all mesh plates, are made from the manufacture in Korea by the name of Emco Tech manufacturing. Mesh plates are purchased from this manufacturer not because of quality but because they are the low bidder.
WFL: Emcotech is Jupiter. They are not a low quality manufacturer that low balls other manufacturers by any stretch of the imagination. Also, Emcotech only manufacturers Jupiter, not other company's plates.
Enagic: Emco Tech manufactures
their mesh plates as follows:
First, they take a large thin titanium sheet ( approximately 4' x 5') and spray both sides with platinum typically only spraying the platinum with one coat for one obvious reason - cost cutting! The reason behind this is that Platinum at around $1,000 to $2,000/ounce and is by far the most expensive part of any water ionizer and because Emco Tech manufacturing typically comes in as the low bidder, they need to keep costs down in order to be competitive.
Once the platinum dries, the large sheet is then cut up into smaller sheets and then a large machine stamps the solid plate creating a mesh plate, which increases the surface area of the sheet but at the detriment of the consumer. This has to do with the fact that titanium is exposed.
Titanium is exposed from the stamped mesh process as well as the process of cutting the larger sheet into smaller sheets exposing all four sides.
WFL: No way would this pass safety certification. It cannot be true.
This is a detriment to the consumer because the exposed titanium, when heated, releases particles of titanium that become “ pathogenic and disease causing” according to a study conducted by the University of British Columbia.
tactics. People do not get sick from Jupiter water ionizers. They
have been around the longest in the US.
Imagine this! Your number one reason for purchasing a water ionizer is so that you can get healthy by drinking the alkaline water and from day one, caustic titanium particles are entering your body. Keep this in mind! Platinum is beneficial, Titanium is caustic!
WFL: Awful scare tactics. We will forward this to Jupiter. I'm sure they'll have something to say about it.
Enagic: The other flaw in the mesh plate manufacturing has to do with the expensive platinum being used sparingly. Again, platinum is absolutely essential in order to produce alkaline water. When it is used sparingly, the result is an inconsistent and thin layer on the plates. Over time, because of the effects of flowing water, this metal will slowly lose its effectiveness especially on mesh plating because of the peaks and valleys (holes). As the pictures of the decayed electrolysis plates demonstrate, when water is passed over the "peaks and valleys" of the thin plates, this process causes friction thus accelerating the process of entropy or decay. The Grand Canyon is a perfect example of the decaying process by water.
Another serious flaw I see in mesh plating is the fact that the #1 enemy of all ionizers- hard water mineral deposits, get deposited and stuck between the peaks and valleys (holes) of the plates and renders the ionizer ineffective over time if not dealt with correctly.
WFL: This may be true but a good cleaning cycle like Jupiter employs or prefilters will solve this problem.
Again, the only reason companies' use mesh plating is the increase in surface area. It is a cost saving feature. Less metal means greater savings!
WFL: They use it because it is a more efficient use of the plate. It is a better design than just a flat plate.
First off, Solid plates are thicker and better constructed which means many years of trouble free use and because they are solid and smooth, that reduces the tendency of calcium and other tough minerals to get wedged in or stick simply because the plates are smooth.
Only two manufacturers incorporate Solid plates -Life and Enagic.
WFL: Not true. Jupiter uses solid flat plates in their older Melody and Microlite products. KYK used solid flat plates in their KYK Harmony, KYK 7000 and KYK 8000. But all major companies with the exception of Enagic have moved on to more efficient plate designs to increase the strength and accuracy of the electrolysis in their products.
However, there is a big
difference between the two companies. Life ionizers is an
Assembly Manufacturer and thus purchases their solid plates from the
plate manufacturer who is the low bidder. This means that the
platinum plates are sprayed and cut much like the mesh plates leaving
exposed caustic titanium. Life Ionizers come standard with mesh
plates and the solid plates are an upgrade feature.
Enagic, on the other hand, is not an assembly manufacturer. Enagic takes a different approach. Enagic manufactures and assembles everything in house. Every conceivable part is manufactured in-house including the shipping materials. This in return increases the quality control significantly.
necessarily. Some manufacturers are better and making parts than
others. Some manufacturers specialize in certain parts. Making
everything yourself does not mean higher quality or better product.
Finding the highest quality components for your product is paramount,
whether you can make them or not.
The manufacture of their plates are much different. Enagic manufacturers their plates as follows:
First, a large titanium plate is cut into smaller size plates approximately 5" x 7". These plates are then DIPPED into high grade platinum resulting in a much heavier and consistent layer of platinum over the titanium plates. Unlike the mesh plates, there is no exposed titanium.
WFL: We don't believe in this “spray on platinum” theory. KYK dips their plates in platinum. According to KYK, this is the only way to manufacture the plates safely. If manufacturers were spraying on platinum, their products wouldn't be certified for safety.
Due to the overwhelming fact that the titanium/Platinum plates are the most important feature of any water ionizer, the evidence points to Enagic's solid plates as being the most effective of the two.
WFL: Solid plates are the least effective in ionization. That's why they have been abandoned by most companies. Think about it – why would a company that previously used solid plates switch to mesh or slotted plates for their newer models if those plates weren't better? Would a manufacturer want to produce a lesser quality product than they previously produced? That doesn't make sense. And why do their newer products ionize better with the mesh or slotted plates? If the plates are worse, why do they perform better? This author's argument doesn't hold water.
Plates and Transformers - Does size matter?
The simple and direct answer is yes for a number of reasons but it is in direct proportion to the transformer or heating element. Allow me to explain.
View the picture to the left. This is a picture of the electrolysis chamber, which houses the titanium/ platinum plates. The chamber to the far left belongs to the SD-501, the center picture is of the Jupiter Athena and the picture to the right includes the Life electrolysis chamber.
is very subtle, but look how the Life and Athena chambers are placed
in the back of the picture to make them appear even smaller... But it
is true Enagic uses bigger plates. It is also true their product
doesn't ionize as well as Tyent's, Life's, and KYK's top of the line
products... So, that must mean we are right. Using big solid plates
is old technology. Most of the middle of the plate has very little
electrical current running through it and does not contribute
significantly to ionization.
I am sure everyone reading this has in some way heated water on a burner or stove. Perhaps you have heated a very large pot of water in order to make spaghetti as an example. Our ultimate goal in heating the spaghetti is the outcome of this process that is to eat spaghetti. Is it more advantageous to place this large pot of water on a small burner or larger burner? The obvious answer is the larger burner and more importantly a burner that is designed to handle the large pot. Of course, the same can be said of a small pot. This would require a smaller burner.
doesn't take a “large burner” to ionize water effectively. Nor
would I compare Enagic's system to a large burner – more like a lot
of wood and not much fire.
There really is no difference when speaking of electrolysis plates and the heating element or transformer. The ultimate goal is to produce healthy alkaline water for the benefit of our health. Large plates with large surface areas require a large heating element.
WFL: This is their excuse for still using a transformer? Give me a break. More like the SD501 is old and Enagic hasn't created a product yet with the newest technology.
The result is a reliable system that will generate high amounts of alkaline, -ORP and micro-clustered water for years to come.
WFL: Like just about any other machine...
The plate size and surface area was directly related to the amount of water that could be ionized.
just plate size but also how effective the plate is in ionizing the
water. Also how clean the electricity is being supplied to the
plates. Electricity from a transformer is dirtier than electricity
from a SMPS electrical system...
As a matter of fact, when I spoke with experts, I discovered that standard tap water is highly resistant to ions and thus a greater surface area of the plates meant a lower resistance to ions resulting in a greater resistance to oxidation.
WFL: Experts? Who? Please explain to us how surface area of the plates alone accounts for a lower resistance of tap water to ions. Seems to me that the level of electrolysis, not just plate size, would account for this. This statement assumes a linear relationship between plate size and strength of ionization that just isn't true.
Furthermore, the quality of the
plates and the materials used plays a big part in the overall
WFL: Again, all plates are similar quality.
Smaller electrolysis plates along with their smaller burner will produce good levels of -ORP and alkalinity when first pulled out of the box but at what cost? The implication is the cost to your health because these units will not hold up over time because a number of factors but the most important being hard mineral deposits not to mention that the water ions are more resistant and thus less effective.
Again, nobody's machines are breaking down or poisoning people. I
know of some old Jupiter Technos ionizers from fifteen years ago
still going strong... Enagic machines will break down quicker because
they still use a transformer which wastes electricity as heat, and
that heat causes stress to the electronics and plates.
The second most important aspect affecting the electrolysis process was wattage. The greater the power source, the greater the effectiveness of electrolysis in return producing a much greater product.
when a good portion of that wattage is being wasted as heat from an
Larger quality plates and transformers are the way to go for a quality machine that will last years in the future.
There are simply no gray areas here. A larger surface area combined with a greater power source is the way to go.
Plates and Transformers - Talk is Cheap!
As you know, there is a lot of cheap talk out there.
WFL: I would classify the talk in this report as dangerous distortions, lies , and manipulations. Nothing cheap about it. It tolls a heavy cost on the US water ionizer marketplace.
So the real question is, who
has the hardware to back all of that talk?
WFL: Jupiter, WFL, Life, Tyent...
First, let me give you a break down of plate and transformer sizes of the top of the line units by each manufacturer. Keep in mind that one trick in the industry is to claim 7 plates. It is not the amount of plates that are important but rather the total surface area of these plates combined. The larger the surface area, the better it is.
WFL: Again, wrong. Enagic is trailing far behind the newest units on the marketplace in performance, filtration, and features.
Along with this, keep in mind the difference between standard Transformers and SMPS that stands for Switched Mode Power Supply. It seems like most every ionizer uses SMPS as compared to conventional Transformers.
WFL: Wrong. KYK developed this technology for water ionizers a few years. Harmony was the first unit. Now the Genesis units use it. Also, the top of the line Tyent and Life units use it. Nobody else has made the upgrade yet.
The conventional wisdom is that
Transformers are less efficient and burn hotter whereas SMPS uses a
pulse that means these heating elements are more efficient and better
for ionizer machines.
Though this technology seems to be more efficient, I have my doubts on the effectiveness of this technology based on reports that these units may overheat.
WFL: The 100% opposite of that is true. SMPS electrical systems are COOLER, that's why only SMPS electrical systems can be used in high end appliances. Here is an explanation showing why SMPS is SO MUCH BETTER:
“The main advantage of this method (switched mode power supply) is greater efficiency because the switching transistor dissipates little power in the saturated state and the off state compared to the semiconducting state (active region). Other advantages include smaller size and lighter weight (from the elimination of low frequency transformers which have a high weight) and lower heat generation due to higher efficiency.”
For example, The KYK Genesis and Tyent have Over Temperature Protectors which simply means that the "temperature detector circuit installed inside the SMPS automatically stops the device". This is a technical way of saying that the SMPS overheats.
WFL: Wrong! Over temperature protectors are there to protect the product and consumer from electrical surges and overheating from electrical problems and are common in high end appliances. Transformers overheat, that's why you can only run Enagic and other transformer based products for twenty minutes or so before they have to shut down. You can literally run SMPS electrical system based units for hours.
At this point, I am unclear as to which transformer is best. However, it does appear that the standard transformer may be more reliable.
he knows which is best. He won't admit it.
Here is the breakdown per Ionizer...
calculation for the surface area of the SD-501 is (5" x 7"
x 2 sides x 7 plates).
As you can see there is a big variation between surface area and transformer size between the 5 top ionizers yet there are only 3 that make the grade. The Jupiter and the Life come in a pitiful last place.
The SD-501 is the clear winner when it comes to the complete package. In second place, KYK. In third place, The Tyent 7070.
WFL: You cannot draw conclusions about electrolysis based on this data alone. For example, the Jupiter Melody ionizes stronger than the Tyent 7070 – explain that...
Information- What's in the small
important issues when it comes to ionizers are the Warranty.
Sometimes you can get a sense on how good a product is based upon
what the warranty covers as well as what it does not cover.
So, What's in the small print?
Tyent 7070 - A 5-year limited parts and labor. This warranty is limited and thus is not a full warranty.
you should be very wary of limited warranties.
Jupiter Athena - 5-year parts and labor based on some conditions. The first condition is to use a reverse osmosis system if in a hard water area. If you do not use a reverse osmosis system, then your warranty becomes void. Keep in mind that reverse osmosis systems run $400 to $500
WFL: Try $180 to $500...
and waste 4-8 gallons of water to produce one gallon of drinking water.
WFL: Some don't waste water.
Additionally, many reverse osmosis filters remove beneficial minerals from drinking water and need to substitute minerals back into the water.
but this is easy to do.
Assuming you follow the fine print there are some other problems I see with the warranty. The first 3 years covers full parts and labor, yet year 4 and 5 cover free parts up to $100 max with labor being in addition. This is a big red flag and my advice to you is to avoid this manufacturer all together.
Please, this is still a VERY good warranty.
Life 7500 - Much like Jupiter, The warranty becomes void if used in hard water states unless a reverse osmosis system is used. Additionally, Life may void the warranty on other grounds.
VERY WARY of Life. They, too, are a bunch of scam artists. But
that's a whole other report.
Their warranty states, " All machines that are used for high volume applications such as weight loss/ fitness, etc...will void their warranty" So how many gallons are considered high volume? Maybe 10? 5? We really don't know and when talking with the Reps., they shy away from addressing this question. My advice is to avoid this company all together. This is another huge red flag.
KYK Genesis - a 5yr limited parts and labor. This is a limited warranty. Not a full warranty.
LIAR!!!!! We support our products with a FULL Five year parts, labor,
and shipping warranty. No limitations.
Enagic SD-501- a full 5-year warranty based on the condition that you use the 100% organic citrus acid cleaner filter twice a year. The 100% organic citrus acid cleaner filter is a filter that Enagic requires to be used twice a year in order to remove the mineral deposits off its titanium/ platinum plates.
Enagic places limitations on their warranty, yet they tell you not to
buy from another company who also has limitations. Hypocrites...
Using this filter essentially restores the electrolysis plates to a new and pristine state that means that one can expect this machine to last 15 to 25 years. However, even these machines have their problems with very hard water. After spending some time on the phone with Enagic headquarters, I discovered that in very hard water areas even the SD-501's electrolysis chamber, in some cases, cannot handle the mineral deposits and as a result the electrolysis chambers need to be cleaned profesionally by the Company. The good news about this is that the Company only charges $40 for this service.
like the Enagic systems have a problem with mineral build up that we
haven't seen in other companies...
You can imagine, if The SD-501 is having problems with very hard water, then the other ionizers with half to a third its plating size don't have a chance. The big difference is that the other companies will charge upwards of $700 to $800 to replace damaged electrolysis chambers.
WFL: Never heard of an electroylsis chamber ever being replaced, honestly. We've never had to do that. And there wouldn't be any costs – KYK backs up their product with a lifetime guarantee on the electrolysis chamber.
Watch out! Check
with your local water authority before purchasing.
This is why I feel that the 100% acid cleaner is necessary and beneficial. This cleaner works great in keeping the electrolysis plates like new, however, as you discovered it still cannot perform with 100% certainty in all conditions. To make my point, NO WATER IONIZER CAN PERFORM WELL UNDER THESE CONDITIONS! Extra precaution and care is needed in very hard water areas. This is the information most ionizer companies don't want you to know!
WFL: Prefilters are so simple to install...and cost less than shipping the unit back to Enagic and having them clean the plates. That advice is free. You guys should follow it, save your customers some grief.
After all, it is not prudent to
think that 4.0 to 2.5 pH acid water will effectively clean off all
the hard mineral deposits from the electrolysis plates. Keep
this in mind the next time you are cleaning of the hard water from
your shower walls. In order for it to work effectively, the
acid pH needs to be around 1.0.
WFL: We commented on this earlier.
Aside from spending an
additional $36/year for the 100% organic acid cleaner, I believe that
this is a very important feature for any ionizer and worth the extra
Based on the warranties, I find that Enagic is the strongest of the 5 with Tyent and KYK coming in second and third.
WFL: KYK offers the best warranty. No limitations.
Jupiter and Life fail to meet expectations!
At this point it should be obvious based on what has been presented thus far that Jupiter and Life ionizers simply do not hold up. As a matter of fact, they have failed miserably on all levels. Again, our objective is to discover the most reliable ionizers out there. Thus, I am not including them with the rest of the study.
WFL: Jupiter has very high quality products. Shame on you.
I base my judgment on the following criteria...
The quality of the platinum/ titanium plates.
The total surface area of the Platinum/Titanium plates should be substantial.
The total wattage of the heating element should match the plate size.
The Product Warranty should protect the consumer not the company.
Strong Acid Water!
There is a lot of talk between the water ionizer companies of making strong acid and strong alkaline water. But what are the benefits and which companies are making false statements?
First off, In order to kill off 99.99% of all pathogens, viruses, germs and bacteria, strong acid water below 2.6 pH must be used. There is only one company that produces the strong acid water below 2.6pH and that is the Enagic Company.
WFL: Also KYK and Tyent can achieve these levels under most circumstances. If water is too hard, reverse osmosis and remineralizing prefilter should be used.
They are able to do this through their electrolysis enhancer tank that simply means that a saline solution is added to the water automatically when producing strong acid water. The end result is acid water that kills 99.99% of viruses, germs, bacteria, salmonella, ects.
WFL: They need to add saline solution to get strong acid. Also, I think the real reason why they require you clean the plates frequently and even send the unit to the manufacturer for cleaning is to clean the salt deposits off the plates from their saline solution. No other company uses salt water in their water ionizer.
Some people are purchasing water ionizer machines not only for the alkaline water but also for the Strong Acid Water. Notice the picture to the right. This is a picture of a person who was suffering from a skin condition that ordinary medicine was unable to cure. This person's skin condition was cured as a result of strong Acid water. Is a machine that produces strong acid water important to you?
WFL: You can make acid water from many other sources than just a water ionizer... The real magic of a water ionizer is making ordinary water alkaline and full of antioxidants.
Strong Alkaline Water!
Enagic: Strong alkaline water
is great for stripping the oilly pesticides and insecticides right
off of fruits and vegetables. The tomatoes to the right have the strong alkaline water and the ones
to the left have tap water. You can see the pesticides in the
water that were stripped off thanks to the strong alkaline water.
No other water ionizers' can do this effectively and most are not able to do it at all. The Tyent mmp-7070 comes close to producing acid water at 3.0 pH and an alkaline water of 11.0 pH.
can get stronger than that, usually with some pretreatment. The KYK
Genesis can also achieve stronger levels than that. KYK Genesis is
stronger than the Tyent 7070.
Here is the breakdown:
Tyent 7070- Acid water 6.0 to 3.0 pH and Strong Alkaline water up to 11.0 pH
KYK Genesis- Acid water 6.0 to 4.0 pH and Strong Alkaline water up to 10.0 pH.
WFL: LIAR!!! Our range is more like 12 to 2 for the Seven plate Genesis. The average consumer will get at least 11 to 3. Hard water can be pretreated to get the stronger alkaline and acid waters.
Enagic SD-501- Acid water 5.5 pH to 2.5 pH and Strong Alkaline water up to 11.5pH
WFL: Enagic machines also require water pretreatment in hard water situations.
It looks like Enagic is the only company that produces the highest level of acid and alkaline water.
Tyent comes in a close 2nd. KYK Genesis, on the other hand should not make claims that their machines will produce strong acid water that kills of viruses nor should they make claims that their strong alkaline water will strip oily pesticides and insecticides off of fruits and vegetables. It simply is not true!
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly!
We have already experienced the Ugly and that was Jupiter and Life Ionizers. Now we need to see the good and the bad of the remaining three.
WFL: Good, bad, and ugly – such a childish way of classifying products.
Tyent 7070 (The Good) Warning voice display, filter change alarm, registered with the Korea food and drug administration ( KFDA), one touch automatic water dispense, warning voice display, filter change alarm, produces 2 liters/ minute.
Tyent 7070 (The Bad) Auto water shut off. Water supply shuts down after 5 minutes of use. This comes across as a benefit yet it is a feature that keeps the unit from overheating. This is a big red flag that should not be overlooked. You want an ionizer that will not shut down if at all possible. You want an ionizer that can handle what you throw at it. Assembly manufacturer.
KYK Genesis (The Good) 76 programmable ph and orp, automatic ph & orp controls, produces 2 liters/ minute
KYK Genesis (The Bad) Over Temperature Protector: Circuit installed inside the SMPS automatically stops the device. Over Current Detector: Automatically stops the output of electrolytic cells. These two things are a big red flag. Again you want an ionizer you can depend on, not one that is shutting down every 5 minutes. Assembly manufacturer
WFL: It doesn't shut down because of overheating, it shuts down after five gallons because usually people don't need to make more than five gallons at a time and it is sensitive to wasting water. People can sometimes forget to turn their machine off. It also can produce 3 to 4 liters per minute, not 2.
Enagic SD-501 (The Good) produces up to 7.6 liters/ minute. ( outstanding by the way)
WFL: More like 3-5.
An audio voice that can be deactivated. The audio voice indicates many things such as filter change, strong acid water, pH water, ects.
WFL: So does the Genesis and Tyent...
No auto shut off because they don't overheat.
WFL: Because they didn't put it in to protect you...
Good for large volume applications such as water stores, Self cleaning after every 15 minutes of use.
Annoying cleaning cycle every 15 minutes. Genesis cleans
All production is in house. Has been in business producing water ionizers for over 33 years.
Liar. Enagic has only been around for a few years. Before that they
were other company names, like Toyo Metal.
Enagic SD-501 (The Bad) No programmable pH and -ORP adjustments, No automatic water flow adjustments, No under the counter models, will not produce alkaline water in cleaning mode.
recommendation to you is to purchase a quality machine for your
health with your pocket book in mind that means finding the best
value for your money.
WFL: Genesis is priced $300 less than Tyent and $1300 less than Enagic and is the best ionizer.
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